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11/18/2005: "goals?"


i asked people in my program what their goals were.

here follow 3 examples of things i don't think are goals:

1) the only two women at the table told me their goals were to "pass prelims and then have a baby". i told them that having a baby isn't a goal, i think my reason for thinking it's not a goal is that it's normal enough (most people who make it to the relevant age end up reproducing).

2) however, someone else told me that they wanted to "live a good life". this seemed a non-goal as well, because it's not clearly defined, includes no plan of action, and it's not obvious that it's been met (and how does one measure living a good life over an extended period of time? economists and health economists might have some vulgar measures, but those remain crude, and what i need here is refinement, not an arbitraty reduction of complexity imposed so we can make the problem more tractable).

3) yet another person (actually, one of the future moms from above, but i don't want to rag on her) told me that her goal was to "do research". that doesn't seem like a goal for reasons similar to the "living a good life" "goal". like "living a good life", it's something over a period of time, so it's hard to measure success. second, and this seems more interesting, one presumably would want to do research because one cared about something else. maybe there are only two categories: to advance some field of knowledge itself (oncology and clown-tipping are two fields that immediately come to mind) out of a love of the field and the myriad problems is poses or to gain some sort of acknowledgment by a community that one cares about that one is indeed a smart/useful/whatever person. those don't seem mutually exclusive at all. so "doing research" doesn't seem a goal as much as a symptom of a larger, underlying goal that would be of more interest.






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on Saturday, December 3rd, Jesse said

Some think we do what we do to leave a lasting impression of ourselves on the world, whether through career accomplishment or family, or both. At times I think 'd like to have that for myself.

This always makes me think of the Woody Allen quote(~):

"I don't want to gain immorality through my work, I want to gain it by not dieing"

which of course is somewhat off the point.

I think some people may just want to find their place in the "pattern" of the world, by whatever path is presented to them, and by what means they have to go from there.

I don't like the idea of solid goals, because once I have them they seem to boring and "accomplishable".

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