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07/03/2005: "oh, no god"


during my drive from albany to cherry hill, nj, i came across a good way to think about whether or not there's a god-like thing.

it depends on how you think about free will (this strain of thought will eventually turn paradoxical, but keep with me). if we live in a mechanical universe, one without souls and magic, there's a compelling argument that we ultimately don't have free will. (this is b/c we can trace back the causes of events to observable phenomena - and out inability to do so hinges on our lack of complete information [ a constraint that becomes less and less binding as time progresses]).

however, in order to live a decent life without going nuts, we need to believe we have free will. things that remind me that i don't have it drive me nuts. things that make people apparent for the b0ts they are drive me crazy. i think a decent way to resolve this problem is that given that we don't have anywhere near a complete information set or complete rules of the game, and even if we did, nowhere near the ability to compute what outcomes will be or would have been, we don't know what's coming next and therefore the upshot is that we have free will, because it seems that way to us.

on to god-like forces. like with free will, what matters is what we can observe. if god-like forces have no observable impact on my life, there's no reason to act is if it exists. assuming that things exist when they don't impinge on our lives isn't helpful (though i suppose i'll have to concede that stories give people piece of mind).

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on Wednesday, July 6th, t-bone said

(this is all my bullshit opinion - i don't know why i feel the need to disclaim that) The universe == all information in the world. Its all right here for us to see/sense/etc. Its not like something is specifically hidden from us, but we just don't have the sensors to detect everything out there nor the brain to comprehend all of it.

to me, having good life has entailed understanding how much of an animal humans are. It really doesn't need to go any further than that. There is no real reason or purpose to how we feel -- there isn't much reason in trying to fit that inside of some bigger picture of religion or a particular philosophic view. just let the good feelings be the end. what else can you do thats worth anything?

on Saturday, July 9th, smileyjake101010101010 said

yeah, but the problem is cutting off inquiry at the right level.

"just think happy thoughts" - whether or not this is possible seems to be (at least for me) dependent on how happy i am.

i have the feelings that our brains are far too big to be happy with the rules of the game most of the time. we want meaning, and this manifests in religion, literature, sciences, and other steaming loads of donkey spunk.

but, of course, that's just my humble opinion.

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